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	<title>Comments on: Stan Kroenke, Arsenal&#8217;s Devil or Saviour?</title>
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		<title>By: Ravi</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/05/04/stan-kroenke-devil-or-saviour/#comment-1084</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 13:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vi - all that went wrong with the Italian league is very much a doomsday scenario possible for all leagues..

but then the premium that EPL clubs command is on the assumptions that the EPL remains a lucrative and saleable product which it is right now and remains so for the near future..

come to think of it, takeovers dont really add value to clubs like man utd and arsenal or big established clubs... the glazers have not done anything that wouldnt have happened in the pre-glazer era.. they merely have to ensure the status quo and clear the debt!!

but then in the case of chelsea, it took them to another level overnight and for aston villa it shows potential of future glory... now a takeover for a club on the verge of the big 4 would make sense as some extra cash could help them break into the big 4 of the premier league</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vi - all that went wrong with the Italian league is very much a doomsday scenario possible for all leagues..</p>
<p>but then the premium that EPL clubs command is on the assumptions that the EPL remains a lucrative and saleable product which it is right now and remains so for the near future..</p>
<p>come to think of it, takeovers dont really add value to clubs like man utd and arsenal or big established clubs&#8230; the glazers have not done anything that wouldnt have happened in the pre-glazer era.. they merely have to ensure the status quo and clear the debt!!</p>
<p>but then in the case of chelsea, it took them to another level overnight and for aston villa it shows potential of future glory&#8230; now a takeover for a club on the verge of the big 4 would make sense as some extra cash could help them break into the big 4 of the premier league</p>
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		<title>By: Vi</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/05/04/stan-kroenke-devil-or-saviour/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>Vi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 07:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ravi 

I agree with you, i also dont buy into sentimentality against a takeover thats why i dint take that route.

My questions is as simple as this? What difference does a Stan Kroenke make to the working of Arsenal.. Lets for a second assume that he is not going to burden Arsenal with enormous debts.. what difference does it make?

You speak of the Glazers, Man Utd have a 800 million pounds debt.. which is like 1.6 billion dollars in debt(that is a LOOOT of money), debts which are racking up the interests! 

Lets speak of the worst case scenario here, Man Utd suddenly dont qualify for Champions league, TV audiences are no longer interested in watching the EPL which means no more shit loads of TV money and lets assume gates fall ala Italian football.. what will happen? Who is goin to repay the money?

It might seem a load of tosh, but Italian was enjoying its best period a decade ago, Stadia were full, the best players wanted to go there... It was the best league in the world.. look at its state now. I'm not saying it is going to happen but i m saying its a possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ravi </p>
<p>I agree with you, i also dont buy into sentimentality against a takeover thats why i dint take that route.</p>
<p>My questions is as simple as this? What difference does a Stan Kroenke make to the working of Arsenal.. Lets for a second assume that he is not going to burden Arsenal with enormous debts.. what difference does it make?</p>
<p>You speak of the Glazers, Man Utd have a 800 million pounds debt.. which is like 1.6 billion dollars in debt(that is a LOOOT of money), debts which are racking up the interests! </p>
<p>Lets speak of the worst case scenario here, Man Utd suddenly dont qualify for Champions league, TV audiences are no longer interested in watching the EPL which means no more shit loads of TV money and lets assume gates fall ala Italian football.. what will happen? Who is goin to repay the money?</p>
<p>It might seem a load of tosh, but Italian was enjoying its best period a decade ago, Stadia were full, the best players wanted to go there&#8230; It was the best league in the world.. look at its state now. I&#8217;m not saying it is going to happen but i m saying its a possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/05/04/stan-kroenke-devil-or-saviour/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 07:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, what Kroenke has in mind i think is a leveraged buy out. This has proven to be a big bust in the 80's but there are successful models. I hope for your sake, it doesn't flop..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, what Kroenke has in mind i think is a leveraged buy out. This has proven to be a big bust in the 80&#8217;s but there are successful models. I hope for your sake, it doesn&#8217;t flop..</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/05/04/stan-kroenke-devil-or-saviour/#comment-985</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 18:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/05/04/stan-kroenke-devil-or-saviour/#comment-985</guid>
		<description>i dont buy sentimentality as an argument against a takeover in todays times.. sports is now a business, period..

not all buyouts r roman abramovish types.. infact none other will be

man utd went thru the same fears expressed in this article before the glazer takeover..

for the owner to take home profits, he needs success on the pitch... for that to happen there has to be investment in the team and club... so even for the owner to leeach the club of all profits, he first needs success on the pitch!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont buy sentimentality as an argument against a takeover in todays times.. sports is now a business, period..</p>
<p>not all buyouts r roman abramovish types.. infact none other will be</p>
<p>man utd went thru the same fears expressed in this article before the glazer takeover..</p>
<p>for the owner to take home profits, he needs success on the pitch&#8230; for that to happen there has to be investment in the team and club&#8230; so even for the owner to leeach the club of all profits, he first needs success on the pitch!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kesavan</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/05/04/stan-kroenke-devil-or-saviour/#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator>Kesavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 07:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/05/04/stan-kroenke-devil-or-saviour/#comment-958</guid>
		<description>Read somewhere that Kroenke was the guy who signed Allen Iverson after breaking the wage cap and also paying the fine that was incurred as a result of breaking the wage cap. 

Might just end up being Roman part 2. 

Man U fans had a lot of opposition to Glazer, but the Glazer rule seems to be going on pretty smoothly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read somewhere that Kroenke was the guy who signed Allen Iverson after breaking the wage cap and also paying the fine that was incurred as a result of breaking the wage cap. </p>
<p>Might just end up being Roman part 2. </p>
<p>Man U fans had a lot of opposition to Glazer, but the Glazer rule seems to be going on pretty smoothly.</p>
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