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		<title>By: ICL And The Quota System &#124; DesiPundit</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/08/17/icl-and-the-quota-system/comment-page-1/#comment-21084</link>
		<dc:creator>ICL And The Quota System &#124; DesiPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thinks the main reason why almost the entire Hyderabad team has preferred to join the Indian Cricket league is due to the quota system,   The quota here refers to the selection of sons of ex-cricketers in the teams that matter at the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hemanth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hemanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My response is to Sandeep for post 11 above:

1. When Ganguly was shown the door, that was not for cricketing reasons. He scored 40 and 39 in that test match in pakistan n helped india have partnerships in lower order. Mind you that it was not a high scoring match.

2. Secondly, average of 40 plus is a quite decent average in test cricket(even modern day test cricket). Average above 50 is seen for some great test crickets (gavaskar, dravid, sachin from india). Vengsarkar, laxman, manjerekar, sidhu, amarnath-all have averages in low 40s.

3. Thirdly, when he was out of team, he scored a century, missed another century marginally in hyderabad. He failed in 1 match(both innings)

4. After he is back,he is the most consistent player in the team.

5. His average in one day cricket is among the best in the world.

Have the stats b4 you comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My response is to Sandeep for post 11 above:</p>
<p>1. When Ganguly was shown the door, that was not for cricketing reasons. He scored 40 and 39 in that test match in pakistan n helped india have partnerships in lower order. Mind you that it was not a high scoring match.</p>
<p>2. Secondly, average of 40 plus is a quite decent average in test cricket(even modern day test cricket). Average above 50 is seen for some great test crickets (gavaskar, dravid, sachin from india). Vengsarkar, laxman, manjerekar, sidhu, amarnath-all have averages in low 40s.</p>
<p>3. Thirdly, when he was out of team, he scored a century, missed another century marginally in hyderabad. He failed in 1 match(both innings)</p>
<p>4. After he is back,he is the most consistent player in the team.</p>
<p>5. His average in one day cricket is among the best in the world.</p>
<p>Have the stats b4 you comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Vijay Swaminathan</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/08/17/icl-and-the-quota-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2020</link>
		<dc:creator>Vijay Swaminathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it matter if I leave a reply. Does anyone do anything that write blogs? Come on - wake up - arise to the occassion. Join me... lets lead a nation to its destiny. 
Be the differentiator, be the patriot, be honorable, be an icon. 

Cheerio!
Vijay</description>
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Be the differentiator, be the patriot, be honorable, be an icon. </p>
<p>Cheerio!<br />
Vijay</p>
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		<title>By: Aman Sharma</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/08/17/icl-and-the-quota-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1998</link>
		<dc:creator>Aman Sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great for the indian cricket as this will teach the BCCI and its executive a lesson that how they should run cricket in india by encouraging the young talent also securing their future with out any politics the only criteria there will be just claass and skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great for the indian cricket as this will teach the BCCI and its executive a lesson that how they should run cricket in india by encouraging the young talent also securing their future with out any politics the only criteria there will be just claass and skill.</p>
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		<title>By: Prashanth Anreddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prashanth Anreddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is our respected media doing about it when they know a criminal like Shivlal Yadav is playing with the careers of talented players? Shame on HCA. Its been a while Shivlal Yadav has been ruining the careers of players, and playing with the reputation of HCA.

Amabti Rayudu has considered next Sachin. His selection to Indian senior Team was thought to be just round the corner. I still remember the Under-19 World Cup semi-finals match between India and Pakistan in Bangladesh in the year 2003. We lost that game. Rayudu,  captain of the Indian team, was serving a one game ban for slow over-rate by his team in the previous game. And the commentators were lamenting how India was missing its star batsman/captain Rayudu.

And today, thanks to Shivlal Yadav, this talent has gone waste. What a disservice to our Indian cricket. Still, I feel it not late yet. Some kind of Inquiry commission should be set-up, SY should be punished for his offenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is our respected media doing about it when they know a criminal like Shivlal Yadav is playing with the careers of talented players? Shame on HCA. Its been a while Shivlal Yadav has been ruining the careers of players, and playing with the reputation of HCA.</p>
<p>Amabti Rayudu has considered next Sachin. His selection to Indian senior Team was thought to be just round the corner. I still remember the Under-19 World Cup semi-finals match between India and Pakistan in Bangladesh in the year 2003. We lost that game. Rayudu,  captain of the Indian team, was serving a one game ban for slow over-rate by his team in the previous game. And the commentators were lamenting how India was missing its star batsman/captain Rayudu.</p>
<p>And today, thanks to Shivlal Yadav, this talent has gone waste. What a disservice to our Indian cricket. Still, I feel it not late yet. Some kind of Inquiry commission should be set-up, SY should be punished for his offenses.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkataraghavan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkataraghavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How should BCCI&#039;s monopoly be busted?
For this question there is a simple, elegant and Legal answer which if applied not only breaks BCCI monopoly legally but also would be an example for similar institutions in India who adopt such unfair practises that seeks to dissuade competition. 
That is the Competition law of India, 
http://www.competition-commission-india.nic.in/
 
As per the law in fact what BCCI is doing is reffered to as ABUSE OF DOMINANT POSITION and BCCI can be punished as per section 4(d) Prohibition of abuse of dominant position THE COMPETITION ACT, 2002 No. 12 OF 2003   
 
In addition to this the Competition act is a very powerful one and the Director General of the Competition commission has sweeping powers including the power to Break down large entities that creates unfair practise and derides competition and cease and dessits powers. 
 
It is high time some capable person take up this againts BCCI which is merely interested in growing its monopoly rather than the great game of cricket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How should BCCI&#8217;s monopoly be busted?<br />
For this question there is a simple, elegant and Legal answer which if applied not only breaks BCCI monopoly legally but also would be an example for similar institutions in India who adopt such unfair practises that seeks to dissuade competition.<br />
That is the Competition law of India,<br />
<a href="http://www.competition-commission-india.nic.in/" rel="nofollow">http://www.competition-commission-india.nic.in/</a></p>
<p>As per the law in fact what BCCI is doing is reffered to as ABUSE OF DOMINANT POSITION and BCCI can be punished as per section 4(d) Prohibition of abuse of dominant position THE COMPETITION ACT, 2002 No. 12 OF 2003   </p>
<p>In addition to this the Competition act is a very powerful one and the Director General of the Competition commission has sweeping powers including the power to Break down large entities that creates unfair practise and derides competition and cease and dessits powers. </p>
<p>It is high time some capable person take up this againts BCCI which is merely interested in growing its monopoly rather than the great game of cricket.</p>
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		<title>By: Klever</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsnob.net/2007/08/17/icl-and-the-quota-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1984</link>
		<dc:creator>Klever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good article. My cousin plays league cricket in Hyderabad and was on the verge of being selected for the Hyd team. Shivlal Yadev demanded 2 lacs from my cousin to ensure that he gets selected. Shivlal has done a lot of disservice to cricket. BTW, I hope Rayudu does well in ICL. Watched him play twice. A classy batsman. I just hope he gets a bit more consistent with his scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good article. My cousin plays league cricket in Hyderabad and was on the verge of being selected for the Hyd team. Shivlal Yadev demanded 2 lacs from my cousin to ensure that he gets selected. Shivlal has done a lot of disservice to cricket. BTW, I hope Rayudu does well in ICL. Watched him play twice. A classy batsman. I just hope he gets a bit more consistent with his scores.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has become a fashion to blame Kiran More and Chappell for everything. Let us remember that Ganguly was not not scoring centuries and centuries when he was dropped....nor was he scoring centuries and centuries when he was recalled. Ganguly has always been an ordinary test batsman by averaging little over 40 runs which in the modern era is very ordinary. Just before Ganguly was recalled, let us not forget that he was scoring in single digits in the county circuit. The point is that we Indians cannot digest our favorite players getting dropped. Decision to drop Ganguly was the right thing to do. Collectively, the four middle order batsmen are struggling now. Unless timely replacements are made ...our team is in for a lot of trouble in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has become a fashion to blame Kiran More and Chappell for everything. Let us remember that Ganguly was not not scoring centuries and centuries when he was dropped&#8230;.nor was he scoring centuries and centuries when he was recalled. Ganguly has always been an ordinary test batsman by averaging little over 40 runs which in the modern era is very ordinary. Just before Ganguly was recalled, let us not forget that he was scoring in single digits in the county circuit. The point is that we Indians cannot digest our favorite players getting dropped. Decision to drop Ganguly was the right thing to do. Collectively, the four middle order batsmen are struggling now. Unless timely replacements are made &#8230;our team is in for a lot of trouble in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Pravin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pravin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything about the article seems to be right, except for the title which is definitely not right. The quota systems may not be the right word to be used by people who themselves have been following this for thousands of years. Taking the liberty of digressing a bit from the main topic, I would like to make the following statements: 
1] The quota system has existed in India even before the so-called reservation based quota system in education has actually made the term &quot; quota &quot; so famous.
2] The children of &quot; so-called upper castes&quot; getting the only right to education, and thus forcing and developing wittingly or unwittingly a lack of self-esteem (which results due to a proper education in a person), amongst generations and generations of the underprivileged, the final outcome of which is that even now these &quot;so-called upper castes&quot; will marry amongst themselves and in numerous parts of the country a very much prevalent and dominating caste system torturing a number of &quot; so-called low caste &quot; people exists. 
3] So, if it has now come to the fore that there exists a quota system in the BCCI, 
   and assuming that it has been there since a long way back say 10-15 years, then are the good cricketers today who in some way or the other had found favour during selections only a result of this system ? Does this mean that the selection of non-Hindus is a part of this quota system as in a minority quota. So does this mean that Zaheer, Irfan, Munaf shouldn&#039;t be part of the team. 
4] Most of the cricketers in the Indian team come from the &quot;upper castes&quot;. Why has this happened. Or is it that the selectors think that those who fall in the jurisdiction of &quot; low castes &quot; are not good cricketers.
5] My point is, in BCCI and also in most of the things that happen in India, favouritism towards &quot;our own&quot; has always been practised. So the existence of ICL is actually the &quot;quota system&quot;, giving the much needed breakthrough for a number of talented players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything about the article seems to be right, except for the title which is definitely not right. The quota systems may not be the right word to be used by people who themselves have been following this for thousands of years. Taking the liberty of digressing a bit from the main topic, I would like to make the following statements:<br />
1] The quota system has existed in India even before the so-called reservation based quota system in education has actually made the term &#8221; quota &#8221; so famous.<br />
2] The children of &#8221; so-called upper castes&#8221; getting the only right to education, and thus forcing and developing wittingly or unwittingly a lack of self-esteem (which results due to a proper education in a person), amongst generations and generations of the underprivileged, the final outcome of which is that even now these &#8220;so-called upper castes&#8221; will marry amongst themselves and in numerous parts of the country a very much prevalent and dominating caste system torturing a number of &#8221; so-called low caste &#8221; people exists.<br />
3] So, if it has now come to the fore that there exists a quota system in the BCCI,<br />
   and assuming that it has been there since a long way back say 10-15 years, then are the good cricketers today who in some way or the other had found favour during selections only a result of this system ? Does this mean that the selection of non-Hindus is a part of this quota system as in a minority quota. So does this mean that Zaheer, Irfan, Munaf shouldn&#8217;t be part of the team.<br />
4] Most of the cricketers in the Indian team come from the &#8220;upper castes&#8221;. Why has this happened. Or is it that the selectors think that those who fall in the jurisdiction of &#8221; low castes &#8221; are not good cricketers.<br />
5] My point is, in BCCI and also in most of the things that happen in India, favouritism towards &#8220;our own&#8221; has always been practised. So the existence of ICL is actually the &#8220;quota system&#8221;, giving the much needed breakthrough for a number of talented players.</p>
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		<title>By: vijaykumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>vijaykumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only problem with ICL is the presence of Kiran More...... He is so famous (or in famous ) for not even considering SAURAV. So such sort of person ..what he is going to do is a moot question. More..along with Chappel has started this favouritism and discrimination. Since Chappel was ousted and sent back home...Hope ICL and BCCI both may not resort taht sort of idiotic selections But apart from him everyone in ICL appears to be OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem with ICL is the presence of Kiran More&#8230;&#8230; He is so famous (or in famous ) for not even considering SAURAV. So such sort of person ..what he is going to do is a moot question. More..along with Chappel has started this favouritism and discrimination. Since Chappel was ousted and sent back home&#8230;Hope ICL and BCCI both may not resort taht sort of idiotic selections But apart from him everyone in ICL appears to be OK.</p>
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